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Sunday, November 15, 2020

Nov. 15, 2020 Sunday

|| baron, aided, daring, number, binding. ||
Image from the Internet.

The opening poem contains all the words (or variations of them) from today's Jumble.
Comments are welcomed!
Do not explicitly reveal any of the actual answer words until after closing time, but embedding them surreptitiously in comment sentences is encouraged.

41 comments:

OwenKL said...

I'm sorry, but my health is failing, so I cannot update any more. keith, from tomorrow it's yours.

Ol' Man Keith said...

I am terribly saddened by your message, Owen!
I hope your health is not irretrievably in decline.
I can't begin to match what you have done. I must call on our colleagues to help support your site, your legacy. I will do what I can, but I don't know my way around the other Jumble sites, not enough to maintain this home for us.
~ OMK

Ol' Man Keith said...

Meanwhile, here is a J4 contribution for today.

Ever with an eye to economy, I offer a ditty about a brief but important moment in the history of insurgency. Note that all four clue words are contained in the 1st stanza, even In the first sentence.
The 2nd stanza pins down the moment in time--and incidentally the solution.

"La Resistance"
I am proud to say I aided the Baron
in a number of daring raids.
Not like these whippersnappers of today
who only play at charades.

It started in the winter of 1201
with a gathering of the merry men.
He gave us all all a binding oath
deep in a forest glen.
~ OMK

Ol' Man Keith said...

Keeping the flag flying...
Here's the hints for Jumble six:

"A Turning Point"
When Carl Sagan had his Cosmos show,
the dollar was a dollar, and a fennel was a seed.
America was younger, and we knew what made her go;
no one was a misfit in the land that God decreed.

Nowadays we're on our own, keeping ourselves on guard.
No unwinding time; we're at each other's throats,
aiming for advantage in this life that feels so hard.
A "snail" is a pastry now, "scrip" a lethal dose.
~ OMK

Misty said...

Our hearts go out to you, Owen, and we will pray that you will have some recovery.

It is hard to resist giving you a little poetic tribute:

We will miss you, dear Owen,
and should write you a poem
To give you warm thanks
from all of our ranks.
This blog is your gift
that our spirits did lift.
And with wings of a dove
We send you our love.

(I know I'm a terrible poem, but we will miss you, Owen, after all these years, and I just had to say something).

Misty said...

P.s. I'm a terrible poet, is what I meant to say.

Sandyanon said...

Owen, I'm very sad to hear of your health declining. I so hope it's not a permanent thing. Your work in creating this blog and your poems here and on the Corner have always made my days better. I wish the absolute best possible future for you and yours.

Ol' Man Keith said...

Dear Wilbur, Misty, Sandy, each of you who are Owen's regular friends--plus any anonymous visitors who may be viewing this site:
We are at a crisis point, a crossroads (I hope), at which we may see a continuation of what Owen has begun--or its demise.
I am afraid I must decline the solo honor of maintaining the page.
Maybe shirk is the truer word. It has been a near-daily pleasure for me, and I am ready to do what I can to see it continue. But I cannot commit to writing for it every day. As for maintaining it, I don't know how to do that--technically--and I do not want to turn a sweet pleasure into an obligation.
If any of you would like to step up and become the site manager (I don't know the proper title for the job, maybe maintainer... or leader?), I am sure you will have the full support of the rest of us.
I think Owen did explain how to transfer the Jumble cartoons onto this page each day, but I did not keep notes.
Maybe others remember?
Or maybe he could teach us all once again?

If we don't find a new leader, perhaps we can find a way to share duties throughout the week...?
~ OMK

Sandyanon said...

Sorry, not me for sure.
I have always been able to do the daily and Sunday jumble on the Chicago Tribune website. And jumbleanswers.com does have an active discussion. Haven't been able to find a website where I can also do the j4 on Sundays.

It's a shame if this site becomes defunct, but even more that Owen's health is bad. My fingers are crossed for his improvement.

Take care, Owen; thank you for all you've done!

Wilbur Charles said...

I'm sorry to hear, Owen, that you are ailing. You started something that's been a lot of fun.

Rhymers rose from the ruins
Poetry declared not dead
Losses turned out to be wins
We'll persevere in your stead"

We hope. I'm on Android. Apparently the download is not difficult. I'll ask Tony (Anon-T) if he wants to handle the job.

WC

Ol' Man Keith said...

Good luck with that, Wilbur.
Meanwhile, we probably can't expect a fresh page tomorrow. Let's keep checking back on whichever date remains the latest.

Owen, I'd be praying for you if I were a pray-er. Please know my heart blesses you, and I wish you a resurgence of strength & good health!
~ OMK

Wilbur Charles said...

Well it's only 7 pm in California so better late than never

As Rebecca entered the chamber a note was slipped into her hand
Not daring to look she secreted the message within a band
Of her garment. She felt now that she was not unaided
But still a misfit as she watched witnesses paraded
In to testify that magic potions, the devil's handiwork
From some unknown cosmos availed this daughter of Isaac of York.

In truth the strange herbs were merely fennel and sage from the garden.
A pastry cook testified she used occult numbers in her magic
Sir Brian muttered, "This trial would be a comedy if not so tragic.
As the trial reached the point of no return there would be no pardon.

No Jewish dollars from Isaac nor some baron's intercession
Could stay her fate. Then she read the words: "Demand a Champion."

Sandyanon said...

There is a way out for Rebecca, a champion! Hooray!

I wonder what her occult numbers were. Maybe 1 cup, or 2 ounces?

Ol' Man Keith said...

Excellent verses, Wilbur, and a nice build to the reveal in the message!
I liked your response, Sandy.

-November 16-
I based this poem on the clues and solution in the Daily Jumble in the L.A. Times digital edition. Others may find the cartoon in one of the sites listed in the sidebar.

"Amazing Pete"
Pete has humble tastes. He has no zeal
to seek fancy food. For him a happy meal
is to thaw a pizza. But he does have a thirst
on him. Pizza's salty, and the very worst
for Pete is to gulp an anchovy before
he has checked to see if his store
of liquids is adequate. No excuse!--
The man can down a gallon of juice
at a sitting.
While knitting.
No kidding.
~ OMK

Wilbur Charles said...

OMK, in the esoteric world numerology is one of the pseudo sciences. We each have a birth "number". 1/31/1949 = (1+3+1+9+1+4+9=28=10). 10s have particular characteristics. Also, time of birth is significant astrologically.

Sandyanon said...

I just did the jumble on the Chicago Tribune site, and found it fairly easy. Not familiar with Joe Wos or his Mazetoons.

Wilbur, you said you would talk to Anon-T about doing the daily uploads. Did anything come of that?

Ol' Man Keith said...

I guess it's too early to have a contact/response from Anon-T. My fingers are crossed.

I got into trouble with a Junior High science teacher for turning in a paper on astrology. My mom had helped me with it.
These "pseudo sciences" gain traction with large swaths of humans for the complexity of their calculations. People get so wrapped up in the formulae & in figuring things out that they forget to question the premises. How can birth-dates help with personal numbers when the assignment of years from an historic event is so arbitrary?
~ OMK

Ol' Man Keith said...

OTOH, there are people now in influential roles, leadership roles, who challenge the premises of the true sciences, ignoring that these have time-tested results. But they base their distrust on the fact that sometimes science-based information is changed ("Don't wear masks/ DO wear masks!") when conditions change or new facts emerge.
The "scientific method" we were taught in school is based on skepticism. No system is more self-correcting.
~ OMK

OwenKL said...

I hope anon-T can be pursuaded to just set up a new page each day. I expect to recover, but not too soon. In hospital now, need a lot of PT.

Wilbur Charles said...

Owen, it doesn't look like Tony is able to help.

Do you have a link to how one manages a blog. ie the download and posting of a new day. I'm sure it's similar to the CC blog management.

WC

OwenKL said...

I I gave Tony and keith
permission to run the blog but I can't do anything more without my laptop and I don't have that with me. Keith turned once before if he can just remember how. Don't need the cartoon to just do thay.

Ol' Man Keith said...

I'm sorry, Owen, I'm afraid my aging memory is just not up to the task. (I might have taken notes, but that was before my old computer crashed.)
But PLEASE do NOT trouble yourself now; you need to focus ENTIRELY on your health. And REST.
If I can re-construct how to change the page/date, I will. Otherwise we can just plug away on the Nov. 15 page.
A reminder to all: you can see the cartoon by going to one of the sidebar sites. Misty and I can find it in the L.A. Times, and Wilbur has his multi-day sources.
~ OMK

Ol' Man Keith said...

OK! I checked out the sidebar links.
And the EASIEST path I found to today's Daily Jumble is the 4th one down--the "Jumble at USA Today" link.
You just need to click "Play" and watch a short ad, then click "Play game" before you can see the current Daily Jumble.
~ OMK

Sandyanon said...

Wilbur and OMK: would TTP be possibly interested in setting up the page and/or teaching one of you how to do it? He seems so knowledgeable about blogging.

Ol' Man Keith said...

-TUES., NOV. 17-
A poem with hints to today's Broom-Hilda Jumble:

"The Lovely Lesson"
When you take the beauty pledge,
you commit to a life of caring
for your fellow human's hedge
against ugliness
& for comeliness--
never a lousy view when daring
a glance in your direction.
Your drill is daily perfection.
Don't kid yourself: to be an exemplar of Beauty
spells more than trouble; 'tis an awesome duty.
~ OMK

Sandyanon said...

I did this jumble on the USA Today site because I got an error when trying the Chicago Tribune. Too bad; I prefer typing in the letters to having to click on them. No big deal, though. I thought today's pun was funny.

Ol' Man Keith said...

Had a spell of trouble because the USA Today site wouldn't tell me the letter counts for the solution words. I don't think it's a problem on their end so much as with the iPad I use when I do puzzle work in bed at night.
My wife pointed out that I haven't updated my iPad's O.S. In years. I do so with my desktop Mac, but I can't take that to bed.
Anyway, I got the correct split, 7+7, from the LA Times site, and got outta trouble that way.
Yeah, kinda funny...
~ OMK

Ol' Man Keith said...

I checked the "USA Today" site from my desktop Mac--and have learned that their version of the Jumble only reveals the number of solution letters when you fill in the clue words in proper order.
I am used to jotting the clue words and the solution word count on my own note page, to have a free hand in working things out.
Different strokes...
~ OMK

Sandyanon said...

Try Chicago Tribune, OMK.

Ol' Man Keith said...

I did. I'll try them again.

Meanwhile, if anyone who reads this can tell me HOW to change the date on this page, to keep it updated, I would be happy to do so--at least occasionally. I can't commit to doing so every day, but I am not averse to helping out.
Maybe I could change the Jumble cartoon too if it does not require much time.

If you prefer to email me privately, my address is Fowler@uci.edu.
~ OMK

Ol' Man Keith said...

Sandy ~
The Chi-Trib site shows the same version of the Jumble as the USA Today site. It got me stuck in a loop & made me re-load a few times before I could get to the game. Maybe that was a fluke, but I'll probably stick with USA Today.

Or I may just go to the digital LA Times, as I'm a subscriber. It used to be that they didn't post the new edition until 3 a.m., but lately they have been posting much earlier, so it is handy for me.
~ OMK

Wilbur Charles said...

This continues the Ivanhoe saga. Using Tuesday and Wednesday J's. Here again are Tuesday's.
Lousy,Drill,Beauty,Pledge; Spelled trouble
-----
Lucas de Beaumanoir was one tough cookie though a man of the cross
When Rebecca threw down the gage, and chose bravely to toss
Her innocence into the scale she briefly awoke human feeling
In the stern, ascetic Master. Raising his eyes to the ceiling
He said, "Pledge to accept the one true Church,
Come into our orbit, surely it's the Savior for whom you search.

Repent, turn thee from thy lousy faith, such beauty must be saved"
Though she knew the drill the daughter of Isaac was brave
And steadfast. Sir Brian knew Beaumanoir spelled trouble.
For it was he the Master elected to pull the Temple's honor from the ruble.
The trial by combat would take place three days hence
Though none would undertake the outing if he had any sense

WC

Sandyanon said...

And the saga continues, Wilbur. I never did understand trial by champion; it's like giving up control. Of course, if you're going to be condemned to death, any alternative is welcome, I guess.

Wilbur Charles said...

Sandy, these believers were ready to accept that God would provide the truth by lending strength to the innocent. Sir Brian during the trial made the challenge re. His honor.

It was he who put the note in Rebecca's hand and now her fate has been directly put into his hands as the Grand Master appointed him to save the Temple's honor.

Though easy to say "Thankfully such bigotry is no more need only to look back at HUAC Communist trial of 40s-early 50s.

Sandyanon said...

I wonder if any women ever did their own fighting in a trial by combat. Seems unlikely, doesn't it?

Wilbur Charles said...

There was Boudicca the Celtic warrior, Joanne of Arc recorded in history. In the Second Crusade noble women donned Armor and rode as a woman's contingent but the crusade itself foundered on the way east.

In the wild west there were tales of women challenging their stereotypical role.

WC

Ol' Man Keith said...

-WED., NOV. 18-
A poem for the "Gingerbread" Jumble:

"On Tough Duty"
Capsule Captain Kramer awoke as they swung into Orbit Two.
It was time to prepare for his outing on the darkening side of the ship.
As top mate for solar vane repairs, he--of all the weakening crew--
was chosen for the critical job. HE!--who had wielded the whip
'til now. But consigned by necessity to the most dangerous task on the Whale,
a solo repair in the freezing black on the shell that mightn't leave him hale.
He was all too aware that his heavy hand doomed him sure to fail.
~ OMK

Sandyanon said...

Had trouble with the solution because I could not stop thinking of the gingerbread man as "he". Anthropomorphizing much?

Yes, Wilbur, there were heroic women warriors, but I was thinking more of any regular woman accused and on trial. I don't think she would have been given a sword and told to fight.

Your Spellcheck or whatever software you have needs proofreading, Wil -- Joanne of Arc?

Ol' Man Keith said...

Yes, that little matter of the pronoun, "he" or "it," troubled me as well. He is the Gingerbread Man after all. Still, it was a cute solution.

You raise an interesting question/suggestion, Sandy, as to whether a woman might enter the lists in such a trial--especially given the dramatic tradition of masked combatants. And why not, if they believed God took the side of innocence?
Or would they worry that God would get His Nose out of joint at such a deception?

Alas, we still have a great deal of gullibility, which is both disguised and more pronounced when it occurs in the mass of people. Wilbur's example of the Red Scare is on target. Religion often figures prominently in such hysterias. Maybe the worst thing about Commies--to the average American--was/is their atheism.
~ OMK

OwenKL said...

awoke, orbit, chosen, outing, one tough cookie. lousy drill, beauty, pledge, spelled trouble. Considering my mental state, that is heroic.

K, from your profile, burrow to the dashboard for jumble hints, big + sign, enter new date, press publish .

Ol' Man Keith said...

SUCCESS!

Thank you, Owen!
EVERYBODY: Click on there latest date in the right sidebar.
~ OMK