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Tuesday, January 12, 2021

Jan. 12, 2021

|| || exert, moldy, nibble, injure, reel 'em in.
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The opening poem contains all the words (or variations of them) from today's Jumble.
Comments are welcomed! And couching them in Poetry is definitely NOT required.
Do not explicitly reveal any of the actual answer words until after closing time, but embedding them surreptitiously in comment sentences is encouraged.

32 comments:

OwenKL said...

News reels were once a feature of the weekend picture show.
Now they're moldy oldies only history buffs would know.
They showed the world at large to every humble hamlet,
As they nibbled on their popcorn, or quibbled on their armrest.

The newsreels were important in an ever-expanding world
To let the public know how far-off events unfurled.
How distant happenings exerted power over every rustic Joe
Who would serve in the Great War, to be injured or laid low.

The newsreel was a feature that the public clamored for
Before the age of TV news, "At ten on Channel Four!"
A double feature and a cartoon you'd think enough to win,
But the news was the enticement to really "reel" them in!

OwenKL said...

Sandy, looking for conversations, I'm in a lot of Facebook groups, most of which are very superficial, but I could recommend one to you if you wanted to risk it. FB can become addictive, but if you restrain yourself (which I haven't done) it can also be a friendly place.

Ol' Man Keith said...

Owen ~ "The Eyes & Ears of the World!"
In reminding us of newsreels, a format I never thought I'd come to admire, you "reely" hit the nostalgia button. Before TV, they were the only way we could see athletes, celebs, and other newsmakers walk & talk in glorious black & white.
Thanks for the memory.
And here's another "great minds" connection: we both wrote today of shorts that preceded the features at our movie matinees.

"One Reelers"
Tom & Jerry's cartoons were my favorites
(just after Donald Duck's).
Tom the cat, a great bully,
lost to Jerry Mouse at the crux.

Jerry'd be happy just to nibble
on a chunk of moldy bread.
Tom's aim would be to injure him,
but he'd whack himself instead.

We're all fans of Jer's,
so the humor appears
and the audience cheers
as Exerted Force
from a Feline Source
runs an unnaturally Perverted Course.
~ OMK

Ol' Man Keith said...

Sandy ~ And remember, F'bk allows you to set the degree of privacy you prefer. You can choose to have only designated friends see what you post.
~ OMK

OwenKL said...

I couldn't make out the billboard, so I copped the large rez one from the ChiTrib.

Wilbur Charles said...

I was wondering what that said. I like that "quibbled on their armrest". Perhaps that was platonic "Canoodling".

This went straight forward with the riddle-solution surfacing as I jotted down letters.

OMK, Popeye was my guy. Although I was absorbed in the various "Shorts". In one of them the ending saw a massive fire breaking out. Prescience to California today.

WC

Misty said...

"Bert, the Jerk"

When it came to dirt,
Bert was an expert.
His house he kept coldly,
his attic was moldy.
On chores he'd linger
till he injured his finger.
With his wife he'd quibble
and her snacks he'd nibble.
Her money he'd steal
which made her feel
it was time to reel
and divorce the heel.

Sandyanon said...

Thank y'all. I looked at Murphy, but they seemed too purposefully clever for me.
I really like the homey feeling on the Corner, but probably couldn't keep to it myself. And TTP scares me. Not literally, just makes me sort of antagonistically nervous, if that's a thing.

Anyway, I found the Jumble pretty easy. Clue 2 gave me a moment's pause. The solution seems apropos, but more of a play on words that doesn't feel like a pun per se. The difference is in the object of the verb, not the verb itself, yes? I'd call it a C+.

Thanks again.

Ol' Man Keith said...

Each of Bert's infractions sets my teeth on edge, Misty. I almost gave him a pass when he hurt his finger, but then I reckoned he did it on purpose to avoid the rest of his chores. I'm glad Mrs. Bert saw the light.

Theft was his greatest crime;
I rate "quibble" his neatest rhyme,

I hope there were no children.
~ OMK

Ol' Man Keith said...

Sandy ~ Well, my new guess is that THIS is the forum best suited to your wishes. Sure we're small, but we offer the coziness of familiarity and the freedom to express whatever you want to say.
If we ever grow, any newbies would be expected to adapt themselves to you, rather than the other way around.
They don't even have to do the Jumble; just be tolerant of those who do.
You're a founding partner, so to speak.

Howdy, Pard!
~ OMK

Sandyanon said...

Ok, whatever I want to say:
Very proud of my grandson in the Navy who was just promoted to E6, Petty Officer First Class. Haven't seen him in person for well over a year (long way from

Sandyanon said...

the Naval Air Station Joint Reserve Base New Orleans to Southern California!), but we keep in touch.

Ol' Man Keith said...

You certainly have reason to be proud, Sandy! I am not well acquainted with naval ranks, but I believe the jump from PO2 to PO1 is a significant step.
Glad you're in regular touch, even if he is physically distant.
~ OMK

Sandyanon said...

Thanks, OMK.

Wilbur Charles said...

That would be Staff Sergeant in the Marine Corps. That's a significant jump especially in responsibility.

WC

Sandyanon said...

Just to continue posting personal stuff that may or may not be of interest to others--

My grandson plans on starting law school at 29 next fall, either in or out of the Navy, depending. My granddaughter is slated in April to receive a bachelor's degree (possibly summa cum laude) that she's been pursuing online -- at the age of 34 almost 35. I got my BA in my 39th year of age.

We don't seem to do education quickly in my family, if we do it at all, LOL. But I give us points for perseverance.

Sandyanon said...

See, OMK, I think that TTP considers anything even remotely critical of him as being political and inflammatory.

Ol' Man Keith said...

Always interested in education, Sandy, no matter how many years it takes a person to reach a goal.
My own history went back and forth. I was a miserable student through high school, but came into my own as an undergrad at SF State. I jumped ahead and finished my BA early. Then I traveled abroad and frittered my time. My next (and final) degree wasn't for another ten years.
News alert! ~ I have joined you in incurring TTP's wrath. I was censored three times today on the Corner. Waiting now to see if I'll get the axe for a fourth time. All because I suggested there might be a political figure in the capitol for whom today's anagram (on the single diagonal of today's puzzle) would be a fair description.
The anagram was IRONCLAD BOOR.
Whom do you think I meant?
~ OMK

OwenKL said...

Bad news. Shockwave has now switched to the same format as all other online Jumbles. I liked the older format much better, but that's not the bad news. Shockwave was the only place online that ran the J4 puzzle on Sundays! I'll have to survey again on Sunday to be sure, but it looks like the J4 puzzle will no longer be available. :-(

If any of you have the J4 in your newspaper on next Sunday, please let me know, and I'll see if I can access it online.

Ol' Man Keith said...

Oh, no! I always get the J4 here on Sundays.
I just checked, and the LA Times just has the J6 on Sunday.
Dang!
~ OMK

Misty said...

Hang in there everybody--this Jumble site is wonderful no matter what.
Both Owen's and Ol' Man Keith's verses were a total delight this morning and I just completely enjoyed them. And enjoyed everybody's conversations and exchanges.
Sorry to hear about the J4 situation--maybe a solution can be found, I'll keep my fingers crossed. But have a good evening, everybody.

I have a 10 am Zoom meeting tomorrow and probably won't be able to check in with you all until the afternoon. But I shall return as soon as I can.

Sandyanon said...

Gosh, Owen, I thought that the LA Times itself published both on Sunday, but I checked, and guess not. That's too bad.

Sandyanon said...

OMK, my mother used to say, "Two great minds with but a single thought."

TTP said...



Sandyanon said, "See, OMK, I think that TTP considers anything even remotely critical of him as being political and inflammatory." Who is the "him" ? Do you think I defend or support Trump ? Is that really the way I come across ?

Jinx left because I kept deleting his pro-Trump diatribes and his using the blog to defend him. Big Easy gets frequently because of his anti-Dem comments. Et alia. It's not the venue.

Chances are that you've never seen those and other comments. It's because by the time you get to the blog, I've already deleted the comments that were posted by the certain early day posters that violate the no politics rule.

I'm just trying to not have the crossword blog deteriorate into a flame war.

Just as I try to keep all of the spam off the blog. 87 entries in the spam folder right now, and more that I deleted directly from the comments page without putting them in the spam folder (so Google can use their AI tools to stop them in the first place).

It's not like I'm getting compensated for doing this, or that I get any ego or power trip out of deleting the political comments or keeping the blog free of spam.


OMK said, "All because I suggested there might be a political figure in the capitol for whom today's anagram (on the single diagonal of today's puzzle) would be a fair description. The anagram was IRONCLAD BOOR. Whom do you think I meant ? "

That's exactly the point, Keith. Everyone knows exactly who you meant. Just as clear as when a certain poster suggested the other day that the riots WERE THE FAULT of all of the 72M people that voted for Trump. And we certainly would have many readers of the blog that are Republican party members who are just as shocked at what happened as anyone. As was the person that replied to that inflammatory statement.

Had both of those comments been allowed to stand, a war of words could have started. The kind of war of words and back and forth insulting statements that you can read in the comments section of just about any online article these days.

That's all I am trying to prevent. The crossword blog is not the venue.

OwenKL said...

I may have found a solution. It's not interactive, but the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette site had the printable version. Whether it will carry the J4 or J6 we'll have to see, but my hopes are up! The resolution is low, tho, so we may be stuck with a smaller picture.

Sandyanon said...

TTP, in answer to your post,
The "him" I meant was you. I often see posts you later delete, though I obviously don't see them all (I often look at comments early). I have the clear impression, and it's just my personal impression, that you interpret comments according to your idea of what the poster intended, not what was actually said. That's dangerous, because it leaves the door wide open for personal bias. And we all have personal biases. I also have the impression that criticisms of you seem to you to be inflammatory, and thus should be deleted. This again can be due to personal bias.

I'm sure you devote a great deal of of time and effort to working with the Corner posts. I suggest, in all good will, that you devote some of that time and effort to examining your own motives and prejudices. We can all stand more self-examination, I think, and in your position - which does give you some power over other posters -- it's even more important.

OwenKL said...

TTP, may I make a suggestion? If a comment has both a comment on the puzzle and a political comment that can be separated, copy the comment before you delete it, cut the offending part, and repost the xword part, maybe *sometimes* with a notice that it was truncated and why.

Ol' Man Keith said...

TTP thought "everyone" knows I must have meant Trump.
I'll never tell--and that's exactly my point
I just asked him to re-think what I wrote from the perspective of a Dem weighing Devin Nunes, or GOP contemplating Chuck Schumer.

I am all in favor of keeping propaganda away from the Corner. I don't agree there can be no political references or jokes. As long as they remain neutral, non-partisan.
~ OMK

TTP said...


Sandyanon, I'm not sure how to respond to that. Could be, but I don't think I take it personally. When I delete, I'll often delete the entire thread of comments, and will often just leave a reminder of no politics. I'll get very direct with my comments, and they are intended to make the point in no uncertain terms. Sorry you were offended.

Owen, yes. I used to do exactly that. Copy the post, delete the offending part, and repost. And often explained why, as you suggested. But that didn't work with some people at all. One even responded back saying his post was deleted and he didn't know why, but there it was, just not with his name in blue.

And, for the longest time - probably well over a year, I was having to monitor and delete the troll that was haranguing Lemonade (mostly) and others with his hate and insulting comments. It's probably how I got in the habit of simply deleting.

For quite some time, I was, and maybe still am, in the habit of responding to a comment, and then leaving them both (or all) there for a period of time, and then just deleting the entire thread. That's why I have asked others to refrain from responding to trolls or those that want to rabble rouse. But that doesn't work with the people that just post an inflammatory comment and then don't read again.

I don't know whether it was C.C., Argyle or Dennis that came up with the "No Politics, No Religion, No Personal Attacks" rule. That's pretty broad. I've interpreted the first two much more narrowly.

I've never deleted any comments about religion or religious views unless they disparaged another person's views or beliefs. If somebody want to ask about or comment respectfully on some aspect or values of any religion, that's fine. Condemning a religion or one's beliefs are not.

Politics is much more difficult, simply because some people confuse government, such as with roles, structure and execution thereof, with politics, and often for good reason because they can be so intertwined. So for instance, if someone asks Gary to explain how Nebraska's unicameral system works, that's fine. If someone writes, "Congress can't get anything done", it becomes more borderline and easily crosses over to political back and forth. If someone writes "... nobody listens to that unknown Democrat representative anyway" (I'm paraphrasing because I don't recall the exact words, but it was said) then that clearly goes over the border.

There were many comments that got deleted during Trump's first impeachment. Some for, some against. But it's not the venue, so they got deleted.

Over the last half year, I've tried "No Partisan Politics" but that has now resulted with a handful of people that want to make coy, comments or innuendos to insult Trump, and the reality is, whether we agree or disagree, there were some 72M people that did vote for him. Some readers will certainly react.

The crossword blog is not the venue.







TTP said...



It is apparent "No Partisan Politics" is not going to work on the Corner.

It will have to revert to simply "No Politics"

Sandyanon said...

TTP, my post above was not expressing any offense I took at any time. Please don't read that into my words. I was trying to make constructive comments that I thought might help you avoid what I see as sometimes/not always personal bias and over interpretation of posts.

Please re-read what I wrote, looking at it in that light. As I said, we can all benefit from self-examination, and, believe me, I have repeatedly examined my reactions to your decisions about posts on the Corner.

Sandyanon said...

And now I have an idea.
Why not consider flagging comments you consider overly political or inflammatory? Insert a parenthetical comment in bold type explaining briefly why that comment was not acceptable.

Yes, this might lead to further discussion and some disagreement. But I honestly think it would be healthy, constructive discussion and disagreement.

Maybe give it some thought?